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bumpncarstereo
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Posted - 12/15/2012 :  8:45:00 PM  Show Profile  Visit bumpncarstereo's Homepage  Send bumpncarstereo an AOL message Send bumpncarstereo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
So i have a 8.8 from an explorer sitting in my garage. I got it fr free so i figure it is a good starting point. It is completely stripped of any accessories except for an open carrier. I plan on building it up to use in my father as an expo style truck. That means driving on the road as well as the dirt, but not the hard come rock buggy trails.

I already have a rebuild kit for it, but before I do that I want to get a game plan on what I want the finished product to be.

I am looking at doing a c clip eliminator kit. Obviously it is set up for disc breaks. I did some looking and I didn't really find what I was looking for, but I want to upgrade. I am not really finding any aftermarket updates for explorers. D specifically I am wondering if you know of a good upgrade. I know you run the 8.8 from a stang. Is that set-up the same?

Also, any one know what a safe size I can run for tires? I am hoping to run in the 38" range.

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If you want to do the c-clip eliminator, you must swap to disc brakes. The drum brakes will walk out with the tire/wheel if you don't.

Your best bet for upgrading to disc brakes would be to get a setup off a '95+ Explorer. They are a bolt on swap (I did this to the Explorer rear disc I put in my old BII). You will need the backing plates, caliper bracket, caliper, and rotor. I found all the parts at Pull-A-Part for about $30.

38" tires will be about the max you want to run on the 8.8 unless you do some structural modifications (truss) and carrier modifications (locker).

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Maurice is correct. In order to run C-clip eliminators you will need to convert to a disc brake setup that doesnt have a ' hat ' type parking brake.

Some axles have a parking brake that is very much like a normal drum brake that sits inside the rotor hat. One of the upsides to the SSBrake disc conversion is it uses the factory parking cable to the calipers with a spring. A lot of the Wilwood setups use a hat-brake.

Maurice mentioned the 95+ Explorer brake setup. It should be more then fine even with it being a solid rotor ( unvented ). It might look small, but we used the same parts on Jeremys teal colored ranger and they worked flawlessly.

If your looking at 38inch tires, your going to have to go to 4.88 or 5.13 ( I believe ) gears. Those are some big tires.

I know you already have the rebuild kit and just need a carrier and gears.

As for beefing up the housing itself.. its a joke.


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Posted - 12/18/2012 :  12:19:39 PM  Show Profile  Visit bumpncarstereo's Homepage  Send bumpncarstereo an AOL message Send bumpncarstereo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Maurice, and D, thanks for the reply.

I already have the axle, and it is from an explorer (don't know what year though). therefore it won't need a conversion, just the parts put on it. I am trying to find where to get some decent parts for the build. SSBC seems like a good bet then? that is a plus being that they are local as well. (so is thosen and aussie fyi)

I did some more searching (I like my tablet for surfing forums at home, but a computer makes finding stuff so much easier) and people are saying that 37's are "safe". I realize that a re gear will be needed as well as a locker of some sort I have the open carrier that I could install an automatic locker, but I may save up for a selectable. I also plan on reinforcing the tube to center section joint by welding the tubes instead of just the dinky plug welds.

D. maybe we can do some work on the ranger over the winter? Also do you still have that sonic blue paint laying around? I know that it is hard to match, but I have that topper that I want to change from green to closer to the color of the truck. I am not expecting it to match, just be closer.

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Might be able to help you out with disk brakes. I sold my Ranger. I have parts in the Garage I never installed. I have an Ford Motorsport M-2300-G kit, brand new in the box. Basically this is a late 90's Explorer style rear disk brake kit. Should be bolt on for your explorer axle.

I also have:
Aluminum cover for the 8.8 from an Explorer IRS. Tabs have been cut off.
EATC - all the parts needed from a 98 Explorer.
Radio I bought from Ken several years ago.

Haven't really thought about what I want for this stuff.

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quote:
Originally posted by YellowEdge4x4

I also have:
Aluminum cover for the 8.8 from an Explorer IRS. Tabs have been cut off.
EATC - all the parts needed from a 98 Explorer.
Radio I bought from Ken several years ago.

Haven't really thought about what I want for this stuff.



What Radio is it? The Apprentice in Buffalo has a 1999 with a cassette player..

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Ford part number 3L5T-18C815-BA. Mach MP3 AM/FM/CD/MP3. I have the black face and a white/gray face.

Scott

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Posted - 12/20/2012 :  8:23:13 PM  Show Profile  Visit bumpncarstereo's Homepage  Send bumpncarstereo an AOL message Send bumpncarstereo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I am interested in the brakes, i am good on the rest though. D, speaking about the apprentice, he still want those tires?

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pic of the brake kit. How about $300 + shipping?

Also included are the flexible brake lines.


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I am interested in the brakes, i am good on the rest though. D, speaking about the apprentice, he still want those tires?



Ill ask him after the holidays. Hes off work till after the first ( construction, everyone is laid off right now ).

As for working over the winter, not a problem! :) . That sonic blue paint is all yours if you want it.

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quote:
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pic of the brake kit. How about $300 + shipping?

Also included are the flexible brake lines.





Thats cheap and parts stores sell replacement rotors and pads right at the counter. It all just bolts right on too!

You should grab that brake kit Bumpinguy. Would go in in less then an hour. YOUR emptying the differential this time though ;)

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The diff is already empty, so sure!

Yellowedge, we will be in touch, pm?

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PM is fine.

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The diff is already empty, so sure!



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